Scott Gambler 2013

Scott desveló hace unos dias, en la primera prueba de la Copa del Mundo en Pietermaritzburg la nueva versión de la Scott Gambler. El cuadro como podéis ver es completamente distinto al actual, el amortiguador está colocado en vertical y se mueve gracias a un sistema de bieletas parecido al Pro-Link, pero colocado mas o menos al reves... En mi opinión la Scott Gambler llevaba ya demasiados años en el mercado y es normal que las marcas renueven sus modelos de vez en cuando, aunque creo que el nuevo diseño está pensado para ser fabricado en carbono y lo que estamos viendo tal vez sea solo un prototipo en aluminio para probar el funcionamiento...





En los primeros gráficos os vais a llevar una pequeña sorpresa: Todas las discusiones en torno a este cuadro se centran en el nuevo sistema de bieletas, pero nadie se ha dado cuenta de que el mayor cambio en el comportamiento lo va a generar la nueva posición del punto de giro principal, colocado muy por encima de la linea de la cadena. La nueva Gambler 2013 tiene aproximadamente un 70% mas de Anti-squat que el modelo antiguo y eso es una gran diferencia. El Pedal Kickback (28º) y el Brake Squat (100%) también han subido mucho.

Y en la gráfica del Leverage Ratio también os vais a llevar otra sorpresa: El cuadro funciona exactamente igual que el antiguo, y seguramente os esperabais algo novedoso. En la última evolución (2011>>>2012) Scott cambió el amortiguador de 240x75 mm por uno de 266x89 mm pero la progresividad del sistema se quedó mas o menos igual. El nuevo modelo mantiene el amortiguador y ademas el Leverage Ratio es clavado al anterior (2.70-2.15). Este caso me recuerda muchisimo al de la Commencal Supreme V.3, en el que también se cambió totalmente la estética y la configuración del sistema, pero se mantuvo el funcionamiento.

Un saludo.

14 comentarios:

Josep Barberà dijo...

Bueno Antonio, entiendo por tus comentarios que la bici va bien. Es decir, cuando uno da pedales a toda hostia bajando la suspension se comprimer relativamente poco, i cundo deja de hacerlo, se vuelve suave, fina y absorbente.
Ademas el LR es igual, pero mas bajo, lo cual es sinonimo de mejora... creo.

Un saludo.

Antonio Osuna dijo...

Si, pero un cuadro con un Pedal Kickback tan alto también puede ser un poco molesto, en pruebas de cuadros con porcentajes similares como la Banshee Legend la gente se queja un poco.

Va a ser interesante leer pruebas de este cuadro cuando salga a la venta.

Un saludo.

markchang dijo...

A mi me mata el BS, si me quejo de mi 575 que es para rutear... en una DH yo espero mejores valores en ese aspecto la verdad. Una pena

Chris dijo...

Shock linkage looks unnecessarily busy to me. What is essential in the design of this single pivot? No shock tunnel and no mounting of shock to an unsupported part of the downtube perhaps. Still, Last Herb AM and FR achieve in a fairly simple way what it has taken Scott great effort to complicate.

Un saludo

Antonio Osuna dijo...

I think the linkage is fine. All the brands likes to have some "Unique" linkage design, even if it works the same as 90% of all DH bikes on the market, and the old Gambler was a very common design.

Also, the design is a carbon frame factory's dream. It is going to be sooooooo easy to build a carbon version of this bike. Nobody talks about how much carbon cost, but I think that the new main triangle in carbon can be cheaper than the old one in aluminium. and they are going to charge more, because it's better, and lighter, and stronger... so it's a very good design from that point of view.

The new Demo Carbon on the other side is a "Bad design" Keeping the tunnel is not a good idea, the frame it's going to weight more and be more expensive to manufacture... It would have been a very good idea to change the design to something like the Enduro or Stumpjumper... Continuous seat tube + Shock extension. when you design anything you have to take into consideration how the material works best, aluminium is not the same as carbon, so designs can't be the same.

Best regards,
Tony

Chris dijo...

I think there is a problem with the Demo design too. I am persuaded by the Commencal argument that the down tube should not be used as a fixed shock mount point where that point is a long way from a tube junction and the shock drives into / toward the tube at a sharp angle - there are too many structural / material compromises with that kind of arrangement. This same argument applies to many other DH/AM bikes - Labyrinth, Nukeproof, Morewood, Lapierre, Saracen Ariel.

I am happy to see ongoing experiments with shock tunnels though as long as the premium to be paid does not get too great.

Cheers
Chris

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