tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4650400550712092979.post4682738650746134470..comments2024-03-25T12:38:12.492+01:00Comments on Linkage Design: Simplon Kibo 275 2015Antonio Osunahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10075236093614144240noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4650400550712092979.post-84074620156332000282015-12-13T18:53:07.437+01:002015-12-13T18:53:07.437+01:00WM It's a 2D Program so there is a lot of stuf...WM It's a 2D Program so there is a lot of stuff that I can't do, corners for example. And the Dummy it's not very active like a real person so it's hard to make a simulation with very difficult terrain, and that's where you see the difference between different Geos or different amounts of Sag... <br /><br />Best regards,<br />Tony.Antonio Osunahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10075236093614144240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4650400550712092979.post-2208104407966068252015-12-13T18:39:41.551+01:002015-12-13T18:39:41.551+01:00@Alejandro: A friend of mine has this bike. He is ...@Alejandro: A friend of mine has this bike. He is very satisfied with the bike. He never uses protective gear downhill on his day trips with more than 1500hm. He uses the bike not for going steep sections with 30cm Stones down as fast as possible. (he has to much fear:) For him, the trail bike with XC Geo works fine - it is a very light and efficient bike. On the Simplon Homepage you finde a german review from mountain bike 2/15 - very good bike - very playful downhill, very fast uphill.<br /><br />@Antonio: Would it be interesting for you to make a working model to see the dynamic influences on the static GEO Values of different bike categories? .....e.g. for Enduro/XC/DH first static GEO , second GEO when you go down a 10% flow trail and than a 30% steep rocky descent. Also interesting would be how the real SAG setting XC front20%/rear20%, Enduro front 20%/rear 30%, DH front 20%/rear 35-40% influence the GEO during riding. Last but not least....the suspension set up (same setup front/rear or more progressive rear) could also influence the GEO on long travel bikes......?!On the MBR Page there is a GEO comparison - hard tail, full suspension...static and when bottomed out.<br /><br />http://www.mbr.co.uk/how-to-2/tech-advice/happens-blow-travel-325354<br /><br />Greetings KurtLegatkurthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15348842428656542415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4650400550712092979.post-78714139860874410952015-12-11T15:53:49.867+01:002015-12-11T15:53:49.867+01:00Tampoco pasa nada, me gusta bajar. Pero pata las s...Tampoco pasa nada, me gusta bajar. Pero pata las subidas más empinadas no es mejor otra geometría? Lo que no entiendo es que se critique algo por no tener geometría enduro, algo que es bueno o malo dependiendo del usoAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15029681316733401924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4650400550712092979.post-72975016171535611752015-12-11T14:22:03.421+01:002015-12-11T14:22:03.421+01:00Pues te toca ir a contracorriente porque la moda a...Pues te toca ir a contracorriente porque la moda ahora mismo es hacer Bicis de Trail con geometrias de Enduro...<br /><br />Un saludo.Antonio Osunahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10075236093614144240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4650400550712092979.post-18668876218563492062015-12-11T10:52:10.893+01:002015-12-11T10:52:10.893+01:00Pues me acabo de meter en su web, y allí parece mu...Pues me acabo de meter en su web, y allí parece mucho más bonita. Me recuerda a mi LP X Control, pero con un sistema muy diferente.<br /><br />Sólo por lo que cuentas, me encantaría probar una.<br /><br />Yo pienso al revés que mucha gente, pienso que geos muy agresivas para usuarios que al final no le dan un uso tan cañero, es un error.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15029681316733401924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4650400550712092979.post-70075924729436862702015-08-31T22:33:25.106+02:002015-08-31T22:33:25.106+02:00Hola Oscar,
A ver te comento, estos parámetros e...Hola Oscar, <br /><br />A ver te comento, estos parámetros están muy bien para una bici de Trail-AM, pero si hablamos de un modelo de DH el sistema tendría que optimizarse en torno a un plato 36T o tal vez un 34T si nos vamos a por unas ruedas de 27.5 y un casette de 10T-24T y tener un LR un poco mas progresivo. El tema de la geometría depende un poco de los gustos de cada uno, pero hoy en dia la tendencia es ir a por una geometría un poco mas agresiva. Tubo superior muy largo, potencia muy pequeña, tubo de sillin muy vertical, vainas muy cortas, etc...<br /><br />Un saludo.Antonio Osunahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10075236093614144240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4650400550712092979.post-74485700562864054332015-08-31T00:20:31.415+02:002015-08-31T00:20:31.415+02:00Amigo antonio, la verdad esta bike me ha dejado de...Amigo antonio, la verdad esta bike me ha dejado de boca abierta, unas preguntas antonio.<br />1.Se podria utilizar estos parametros de cinematica para una DH si es asi cuales serian los ideales?<br />2.Cuales serian la geometria mas IDEAL para esta bike, de acuerdo a la tendencia actual?<br /><br />Es q realmente los datos que aportas son imposibles de conseguir, ES INCREIBLE.<br /><br />ESPERO ME PUEDAS RESPONDER.Oskar.DHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05240398360033947665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4650400550712092979.post-37194606674845747662015-08-20T20:54:32.343+02:002015-08-20T20:54:32.343+02:00Josep I think Simplon or Liteville try to improve ...Josep I think Simplon or Liteville try to improve there bikes and geometries continuously in small steps...these companies make -> no revolution!!....like many other bike companies do every year:)....they innovate there existing, good selling products. (Liteville 301 has now version 12!!) <br /><br />These Trailbikes are mainly used for the "Alpencross - Transalp" ->uphill sometimes fire roads, downhill mostly - small (sometimes steep and technical) hiking trails with low average speed <20kmh (downhill) Long wheelbase, long reach, low bottom bracket is not really necessary for the average Transalp rider. More important is weight, suspension comfort and effectivity and durability of the bike.<br /><br />Simplon is a sponsor of a big Transalp race. For many mountain bikers (especially from Germany) - the Transalp is the highlight of the MTB season. This is a wonderful 5-8 day journey with back bag from alpine hut to alpine hut - from Germany to Italy. (different routes are possible......15.000 meter altitude up and down - 600km...) <br /><br />Greetings KurtLegatkurthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15348842428656542415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4650400550712092979.post-20272058694449937902015-08-20T17:03:27.087+02:002015-08-20T17:03:27.087+02:00Sorry, Austria not Ger ;)Sorry, Austria not Ger ;)Mi isla de La Palma, vista con otros ojos.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13546459092473217215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4650400550712092979.post-78288897148436499952015-08-20T16:25:40.593+02:002015-08-20T16:25:40.593+02:00Very interesting what you tell us, Kurt ...
Do yo...Very interesting what you tell us, Kurt ...<br /><br />Do you think the "geometries conservative" are due to the style of the mountain that is practiced in this area?.<br /><br />We talk about "vertride" can be?.<br /><br />The bike short wheelbase, high bottom bracket, closed-angle steering ... respond Liteville style (without being the same, of course) practice activity?.<br /><br />Best Regards ...Josep Barberà.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09869671497387547688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4650400550712092979.post-32558269942944184102015-08-20T14:08:42.594+02:002015-08-20T14:08:42.594+02:00Antonio - congratulations, your Blog is very inter...Antonio - congratulations, your Blog is very interesting! I learn a lot, during reading your analysis of the different suspension approaches. <br /><br />I also like, that you analyse bikes from many different producers....some of these Companies are not so popular for the "internetsociety" because they this bikebrands do not emphasize there marketing in global online bikemagazines.<br /><br />Simplon is such an example. This Company is from Austria - not Germany!! <br /><br />In Austria Simplon is very popular. Many Retailers in Austria like this Company. In comparison to many other "global" bikeproducers, you get a bike within 2 weeks-all models, all sizes- the whole year! (no season preordering in july for 2016 bikers for retailers.....)<br />This is a big advantage of Simplon for there customer (and an advantage for the retailers.....more flexibility, bikes/capital in stock...etc.)<br /><br />To the geometry of this trailbike: nobody knows what is best for the average customer - I know very satisfied customers ( but they do not Ride on DH Worlcup Level:) they like how the bike corners, they like the lightweigth frame (sometimes bikers have to carry there bike on difficult sections in the alps) and they like the durability of this bike.<br /><br />Greeting from Austria<br />KurtLegatkurthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15348842428656542415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4650400550712092979.post-40382800363906265292015-08-20T11:40:16.380+02:002015-08-20T11:40:16.380+02:00Pues la Kuro si tiene estas mismas cifras y con un...Pues la Kuro si tiene estas mismas cifras y con un poco más de progresividad en el amorto me parece una gran bici de enduro. 67.5º y 74º en el sillin, tal vez se queden un pelin cortos, pero igual con 170 mm la bici se queda en su punto dulce.Joaquín Tejerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03006214180970244552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4650400550712092979.post-17920716422132689852015-08-20T10:10:43.331+02:002015-08-20T10:10:43.331+02:00Antonio tal cual, casa :D o apartamento, te podria...Antonio tal cual, casa :D o apartamento, te podria decir asi de memoria:<br /><br />liteville, nicolai, ion, continental, xualbe, norco alemania, manitou alemania/europa, simplon, cube, rose, canyon, radon, ghost, suntour, trek alemania... sin contar que los dueños de bikecomponents, hibike y 2 o 3 mas tienen tambien casa aqui<br /><br />Como dicen ellos 4 h de alemania aqui, las casas baratas, todo barato, buen clima, muchos senderos mas de 2000 km y la comida y cervezas baratas :D<br /><br />Eso si vida nocturna nain de nain :PMi isla de La Palma, vista con otros ojos.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13546459092473217215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4650400550712092979.post-50900385404836709202015-08-20T03:43:52.848+02:002015-08-20T03:43:52.848+02:00And yes, the Norco is a bit like this one, I'm...And yes, the Norco is a bit like this one, I'm thinking about writing an article next month about this type of bikes (Liteville, Engine Lab, Norco, Simplon, Canyon, etc...). There is a general consensus that FSR systems are almost the same as Single Pivots when it comes to Axle Path, Anti-squat and Pedal-kickback and that's not really true, there are a few exceptions that work almost the same as a Virtual Pivot and a lot that are somewhere in between.<br /><br />A Norco Range with a small update on the kinematics leaning this way and another small update on the geometry would be an absolute Killer. <br /><br />Best regards,<br />Tony.Antonio Osunahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10075236093614144240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4650400550712092979.post-79081073939278901432015-08-20T03:30:47.877+02:002015-08-20T03:30:47.877+02:00Vamos que la marca es casi mas Canaria que Alemana...Vamos que la marca es casi mas Canaria que Alemana. No se como lo harán pero me imagino que todos los que están alli haciendo I+D no estarán de hoteles, no? Se compran una casa en la Isla y la amortizan rápidamente XD...<br /><br />Un saludo.<br /><br />Antonio Osunahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10075236093614144240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4650400550712092979.post-6424475640193029872015-08-20T00:06:40.598+02:002015-08-20T00:06:40.598+02:00Muy cierto, si.
No queria ser el primero en decirl...Muy cierto, si.<br />No queria ser el primero en decirlo...<br /><br />Saludos.Josep Barberà.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09869671497387547688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4650400550712092979.post-51819479929468383352015-08-19T23:10:20.158+02:002015-08-19T23:10:20.158+02:00carajo pero mas fea que un piecarajo pero mas fea que un pieDJB2011https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641020326912492493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4650400550712092979.post-62877577102269046632015-08-19T19:55:01.944+02:002015-08-19T19:55:01.944+02:00The norco's have similar anti squat curve. Lo...The norco's have similar anti squat curve. Looks like this is accomplished by placing the chainstay pivot downwards and forwards. The new demo has a similar curve as well, and a similar design. Hopefully Norco lowers the main pivot in future iterations, then we will see kinematics similar to this. Norco geometry is pretty good as well.berriwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01111920202057513690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4650400550712092979.post-9056402162117575442015-08-19T18:14:33.237+02:002015-08-19T18:14:33.237+02:00Yo se un fallo de la marca :P
La laca es mala mal...Yo se un fallo de la marca :P<br /><br />La laca es mala mala, en palabras de su probador :D se cae como la piel despues del verano ;)<br /><br />Por lo visto fallo de barniz y bueno, no se si ya las nuevas esta solucionado, pero hasta hace cuestion de 2 meses o asi era un fail :(<br /><br />Es algo estetico si pero bueno, aqui estan a la patada, vienen o aqui andan 4 meses al año con los protos, betas e inventos :) soy bastante buena gente, te invitan a rodar con ellos, a beber cervezas y a divagar de bicis :P<br /><br />Les enseñare la entrada Antonio a para ver su cara de felicidad :P porque son una empresa pequeña a fin de cuentas, me contaron su historia y son algo como empezo nico en un minigaraje con 3 maquinas y ilusion... ojala les vaya muy bien porque son muy majos :)Mi isla de La Palma, vista con otros ojos.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13546459092473217215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4650400550712092979.post-13420634786978212852015-08-19T00:07:01.846+02:002015-08-19T00:07:01.846+02:00La bici es un diamante en bruto, eso está claro. L...La bici es un diamante en bruto, eso está claro. Lo de la geometría ademas no es un caso aislado, si te fijas en la Kuro vas a ver que las cifras tampoco encajan mucho con una Enduro de 160mm... Las geometrías son muy poco agresivas, siempre tirando hacia el lado XC, algo parecido a lo que hace Ibis...<br /><br />Un saludo.Antonio Osunahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10075236093614144240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4650400550712092979.post-49668342498162627552015-08-18T23:29:40.652+02:002015-08-18T23:29:40.652+02:00Han hecho lo más dificil, que es tener unos número...Han hecho lo más dificil, que es tener unos números cinemáticos impecables... por no decir los mejores en su categoria, y no saber soldar los tubos en unas cotas minimamente correctas. <br />Sus geos son bastante impresentables (Parecen tomadas de un catálogo de cinco o seis años atrás), cosa que aun es más dificil de explicar, porque uno supone viendo las gráficas, que saben como hacer una bici. De sobras.<br /><br />El todo, si una de sus partes, no me sirve. <br />Una lástima.<br /><br />Saludos.<br />Josep Barberà.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09869671497387547688noreply@blogger.com